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DSub for Android

Postby daneren2005 » Sat Jul 07, 2012 5:03 pm

So I have forked the current Subsonic for Android app and added a few features and released it on the market as DSub. I have also posted up the source on Github in compliance with GPLv3 for those who want it.

What I want to know is what features people are looking for in the Android app? What would make your experience better? And if its one of the features I already listed which are most important to you?

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Re: Subphonic for Android

Postby jol » Sat Jul 07, 2012 5:58 pm

Hi,
this is the list of (mostly quirks) I had for the original Subsonic Android app:
Android Quirk: jukebox stops playing when unplugging headset - do you support Jukebox? I love it..
Android wired headset buttons - double press support - would by new headset as the buttons are dead in the meantime..
Randomness in Play Shuffle of Android App
Search in offline mode on Android.
and for search in general I don´t know whether the client can control AND vs OR of search terms, but I´d prefer and.
Best regards, jol
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Re: Subphonic for Android

Postby daneren2005 » Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:44 am

jol wrote:Hi,
this is the list of (mostly quirks) I had for the original Subsonic Android app:
Android Quirk: jukebox stops playing when unplugging headset - do you support Jukebox? I love it..
Android wired headset buttons - double press support - would by new headset as the buttons are dead in the meantime..
Randomness in Play Shuffle of Android App
Search in offline mode on Android.
and for search in general I don´t know whether the client can control AND vs OR of search terms, but I´d prefer and.
Best regards, jol

1) Easy enough fix. Done.
2) What is it supposed to do on double press and by that do you mean press twice in a row quickly?
3) I can't really fix the "true" randomness of it since the request is fulfilled by the server, but the changing the size of the random playlist shouldn't be that hard (probably would do a option for different sizes). I'm not sure why you would want a delete button though since having it in the cache doesn't really make a difference for the most part.
4) Definitely doable, just a bit of work.
5) The AND/OR behavior is handled on the server side. After doing offline search I probably could change it but I would rather keep the behavior for them the same.
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Re: Subphonic for Android

Postby jol » Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:37 am

daneren2005 wrote:2) What is it supposed to do on double press and by that do you mean press twice in a row quickly?
Other players skip to next title.
daneren2005 wrote:3) I can't really fix the "true" randomness of it since the request is fulfilled by the server, but the changing the size of the random playlist shouldn't be that hard (probably would do a option for different sizes). I'm not sure why you would want a delete button though since having it in the cache doesn't really make a difference for the most part.
Should have made explicit that I am using offline a lot (outdoor), and then randomness is not the server, and delete from cache limits the choice to the titles I like.

Just wanted to give it a try, but Google Play lists it at 2$ - strange for a fork of a GPL project, isn´t it? Cost of distribution?
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Re: Subphonic for Android

Postby mr_nobody » Sun Jul 08, 2012 12:17 pm

daneren2005 wrote:What I want to know is what features people are looking for in the Android app? What would make your experience better? And if its one of the features I already listed which are most important to you?


If you can fix the issue mentioned in this thread, some of us would be very happy:

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=9716
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Re: Subphonic for Android

Postby dunnno » Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:51 am

Looks like, in my end, your app is faster than the original one.
Am I blind or I don't find the offline option, where is it ?
Also, I have something like a bug ( ?) that I had on the original app too. It plays the first song of my current Playlist twice.

EDIT : There aren't the play/pause, next, previous buttons anymore from the drop down status bar? Annoying since you have to open the app now
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Re: Subphonic for Android

Postby daneren2005 » Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:35 pm

jol wrote:
daneren2005 wrote:2) What is it supposed to do on double press and by that do you mean press twice in a row quickly?
Other players skip to next title.
daneren2005 wrote:3) I can't really fix the "true" randomness of it since the request is fulfilled by the server, but the changing the size of the random playlist shouldn't be that hard (probably would do a option for different sizes). I'm not sure why you would want a delete button though since having it in the cache doesn't really make a difference for the most part.
Should have made explicit that I am using offline a lot (outdoor), and then randomness is not the server, and delete from cache limits the choice to the titles I like.

Just wanted to give it a try, but Google Play lists it at 2$ - strange for a fork of a GPL project, isn´t it? Cost of distribution?
Best regards, jol

Alright I will work on the skip to next portion as well as better offline searching. As for the $2, it is a donation for my development time. The code is online for people to grab and compile themselves, or if it is really that huge of an issue I can put the apk in the downloads on Github. I'm not expecting more than a few people to be interested in buying this. Really I'll be happy if I can make my $25 back for making a development account.

mr_nobody wrote:
daneren2005 wrote:What I want to know is what features people are looking for in the Android app? What would make your experience better? And if its one of the features I already listed which are most important to you?


If you can fix the issue mentioned in this thread, some of us would be very happy:

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=9716

I'll look into it, but since I haven't had that issue myself it will be hard to diagnose. Mostly I can just try increasing the buffering and see if that helps.

dunnno wrote:Looks like, in my end, your app is faster than the original one.
Am I blind or I don't find the offline option, where is it ?
Also, I have something like a bug ( ?) that I had on the original app too. It plays the first song of my current Playlist twice.

EDIT : There aren't the play/pause, next, previous buttons anymore from the drop down status bar? Annoying since you have to open the app now

On my phone is the offline option is still under select server like it was before. As for the play/next/previous under the drop down status bar, I am looking at the current app and it isn't there either...can you show me screenshots of what is going on?
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Re: Subphonic for Android

Postby dunnno » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:44 am

Here is a screenshot for the buttons. Is the offline the cache option?

EDIT : oh, my bad, I found the offline thingy. But how does it work? When chosen, everything disappear. How do you choose songs to be "offlined"?
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Re: Subphonic for Android

Postby albercliff » Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:51 am

daneren2005 wrote:I'll look into it, but since I haven't had that issue myself it will be hard to diagnose. Mostly I can just try increasing the buffering and see if that helps.

I've tried to do that but with no luck.
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Re: Subphonic for Android

Postby daneren2005 » Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:41 am

dunnno wrote:Here is a screenshot for the buttons. Is the offline the cache option?

EDIT : oh, my bad, I found the offline thingy. But how does it work? When chosen, everything disappear. How do you choose songs to be "offlined"?

I just tried downloading the official app and they don't show up for me still. In fact I didn't even know that you could have buttons inside of the notification. In fact I just did some quick googling and everything I saw says that you can't do that. I'll look into it more tomorrow though I'm probably missing something in how I'm searching. Right now the offline works just the same that it does in the current app. It is just an offline view for the music that you currently have downloaded. As I have been preparing to leave for vacation that has probably been my main annoyance is the lack of a way to set music to download (using pinning is kind of non-intuitive) so I will be adding it in the next few days.

albercliff wrote:
daneren2005 wrote:I'll look into it, but since I haven't had that issue myself it will be hard to diagnose. Mostly I can just try increasing the buffering and see if that helps.

I've tried to do that but with no luck.

Then I'll try to see if I can find a way to make it resume from the point it paused at. That actually shouldn't (but you never know) be that hard, I just won't really have a way to test it besides letting people try it and letting me know.
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Re: Subphonic for Android

Postby woostr » Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:56 pm

I'd like the ability to edit / rearrange a playlist. I will gladly pay/ donate the $2 for this app if you add that feature.
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Re: Subphonic for Android

Postby Menso » Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:51 pm

I'd pay $2 gladly if there was a UI overhaul but I can't justify giving any amount of money for the butt ugly interface that comes as is.
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Re: Subphonic for Android

Postby wesssider » Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:53 pm

daneren2005 wrote:I just tried downloading the official app and they don't show up for me still. In fact I didn't even know that you could have buttons inside of the notification. In fact I just did some quick googling and everything I saw says that you can't do that. I'll look into it more tomorrow though I'm probably missing something in how I'm searching. Right now the offline works just the same that it does in the current app. It is just an offline view for the music that you currently have downloaded. As I have been preparing to leave for vacation that has probably been my main annoyance is the lack of a way to set music to download (using pinning is kind of non-intuitive) so I will be adding it in the next few days.


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Re: Subphonic for Android

Postby daneren2005 » Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:08 pm

I've been working on some of the features people asked for, but I'm on a different computer and it seems to give problems with the certificates being different. Does anyone know if I sign the apk with my key on a different computer will it give people issues when they try to update? I might need to wait until I am back home to update.
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Re: Subphonic for Android

Postby bytethdgroove » Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:23 pm

wish i could try it before I buy it, how can i tell if this version is any better than the FREE version, without trying it first.
looks intersting, considering there is only one review and its 1 star, i am not willing to spend the dough.
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