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Postby spone » Fri Nov 05, 2010 8:37 am

+1 to constant random play using the web player!

Additionally, it should be possible to queue search results to the web player with one click, preferably the whole results (= all pages).

Much thanks for the great player software, keep up the good work! *happy user*
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Postby kdshaw1984 » Sun Nov 07, 2010 8:00 am

donpearson wrote:I think thats a good idea, but i see one problem with it.
It depends on the size of your music collection but have you ever hit playall with a lot of music ?
It will take a long time to gen the playlist.
I have:
8,584 artists
3,121 albums
46,770 songs
262.60 GB (~ 4,079 hours)
at the time of this post..
For subsonic to creat a playlist with all that music in it i think would take a hell of a lot of time..



How do you have more artists than albums? Are you counting soundtrack contributers as individual artists? That seems odd.

939 artists
2,247 albums
28,915 songs
131.28 GB (~ 2,039 hours)
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Postby hanker » Fri Nov 12, 2010 4:57 pm

I'd also love to see "shuffle entire library" in the web player. I'm currently doing this with a 500+ GB music library on a Mac running software called "Play" by sbooth.org. It would be fantastic to be able to get this capability in the subsonic web player.
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Postby stoffe » Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:59 pm

Came to the forums looking exactly for this, as I used it in the Android client. It's possible to generate a random playlist from any sub directory which is almost enough though - and fast! But ideally just keeping on playing random songs (and having some history, just like the Android client for back/forward) would be perfect. :)

Great software, just starting to try it out for real. :)
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Postby mellofone » Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:12 pm

phazzard wrote:+ 1
Ability to play all songs in collection in order or random play


Can't you just go to More, and use the Random playlist feature? Change to 50 songs, make sure all the other options are set to Any, and click "Play more random songs when end of playlist is reached."

That should do what you need, no?
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Postby rschauer » Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:18 pm

A playlist is basically just a directory listing, right? I can't imagine it would take too long. Other media servers often index files into a database of some kind, which is a very different process and takes time.

The amount of time to generate a playlist depends largely on your filesystem. On my ext4 drive:

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user@host:~$ time find ./ -name *.avi | wc -l
114

real   0m6.658s


...and after that's been done once:

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user@host:~$ time find ./ -name *.avi | ls -l > /dev/null

real   0m0.389s


When I did this to find over 34k music files (FLAC, OGG, and MP3 all at once) on my media drive (also ext4), it took maybe 15 seconds to do the initial find. Then to cat the directory listings to a file took less than a third of a second. (Sorry, didn't think to time that one, and now all my subsequent finds are about 0.3 seconds.)

On NTFS or FATx, you might be looking at longer loading times. It also, of course, has a lot to do with the speed of your drive. Sorry, don't have an NTFS drive handy to test at the moment.

Can anyone run a similar test on a Windows machine (with any FS)? I have a feeling that makes a difference as well. I'll check my OGG dir on my Win7/NTFS machine later if I remember.

I don't think this would be a very time consuming process. And it would only have to be done when changes are made to the library (or upon request, I suppose). Unless your running on a Pentium II or reading your library from magnetic tape, I doubt it would be unbearably slow.

EDIT: Put terminal output in code tags.
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Postby rschauer » Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:24 pm

mellofone wrote:
phazzard wrote:+ 1
Ability to play all songs in collection in order or random play


Can't you just go to More, and use the Random playlist feature? Change to 50 songs, make sure all the other options are set to Any, and click "Play more random songs when end of playlist is reached."

That should do what you need, no?


I hadn't seen that function. Nice...but I'm looking now, and I don't see "Play more random songs when end of playlist is reached." Where did you find this?
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Postby mellofone » Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:19 pm

rschauer wrote:I hadn't seen that function. Nice...but I'm looking now, and I don't see "Play more random songs when end of playlist is reached." Where did you find this?


In my 4.4 install, it's right under the "Create random playlist with" option:

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Postby GJ51 » Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:29 pm

That's strange, I don't have that on any of my installs. What version (OS) of SS are you running?
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Postby mellofone » Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:31 pm

Linux.
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Postby crooksy » Thu Apr 21, 2011 4:30 pm

mellofone wrote:
rschauer wrote:I hadn't seen that function. Nice...but I'm looking now, and I don't see "Play more random songs when end of playlist is reached." Where did you find this?


In my 4.4 install, it's right under the "Create random playlist with" option:

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For some reason I never noticed this feature, thanks for pointing it out. This should probably be a bit more prominent on the site as it's quite handy.

I also don't see the "play more random songs" check box.

I'm running on Windows Vista, SS version 4.4 and accessing website on Google Chrome.
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Postby mellofone » Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:23 pm

crooksy wrote:For some reason I never noticed this feature, thanks for pointing it out. This should probably be a bit more prominent on the site as it's quite handy.

I also don't see the "play more random songs" check box.

I'm running on Windows Vista, SS version 4.4 and accessing website on Google Chrome.


Very strange. My server is on Linux, SS version 4.4, and that checkbox appears in both Firefox and Chrome (also a Linux machine).

Just for the heck of it, I opened the SS interface in Windows, and the "play more random songs" checkbox is not there, using the same exact server, same exact user.
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Postby crooksy » Thu Apr 21, 2011 10:06 pm

mellofone wrote:
crooksy wrote:For some reason I never noticed this feature, thanks for pointing it out. This should probably be a bit more prominent on the site as it's quite handy.

I also don't see the "play more random songs" check box.

I'm running on Windows Vista, SS version 4.4 and accessing website on Google Chrome.


Very strange. My server is on Linux, SS version 4.4, and that checkbox appears in both Firefox and Chrome (also a Linux machine).

Just for the heck of it, I opened the SS interface in Windows, and the "play more random songs" checkbox is not there, using the same exact server, same exact user.


How very strange indeed - looks like we've stumbled across a bug unless this is intentional for some reason.
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Postby rschauer » Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:44 pm

Very strange, indeed. I'm also running SS 4.4, on Ubuntu Maverick. Checked in FF 3.6 and Chromium 10.0, and that checkbox does not appear. I tried admin as well as a different user.
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Postby Concept211 » Fri Apr 22, 2011 3:40 pm

Guys,

The checkbox only appears if you have your current player set to play externally via WinAmp, WMP, etc. If you're listening using the built-in Flash web player, the checkbox won't be available.


Back to the RANDOM PLAY feature on your entire library or specific to the folder you specify is something I've been wanting for years now from Subsonic.

Basically, just like we have the Jukebox Mode we need a RADIO MODE...something that we can simply tune into via an external device or desktop player via the playlist URL and instantly listen to whatever is currently on. I think that single feature would simply make this wonderful software nearly PERFECT! :)
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