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Postby Arcane » Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:00 am

This is great news!! I love it. But the player doesn't seem to want to play using Firefox on Linux. IE on windows seems to work just fine...
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Postby sindre_mehus » Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:03 am

Arcane wrote:This is great news!! I love it. But the player doesn't seem to want to play using Firefox on Linux. IE on windows seems to work just fine...

Has anyone else seen this?

Does the player work on this site: http://www.longtailvideo.com/ ?

What version of the Flash plugin do you have, and can you try to upgrade it?

Thanks!
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Postby sindre_mehus » Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:26 pm

Regarding the previous post: I just discovered that the embedded player requires Flash plugin version 9.0.115 or later. I'll change that to require 9.0.0 or later.

In the mean time, just upgrade the Flash plugin to make it work.
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Postby t3rror » Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:44 pm

I am also having the problem with no flash based player after this upgrade. My local Java version is 6 and my Firefox flash plugin version is 10.0.12.36. Is there something else that could be preventing this from working? I did check the site you mentioned and the player works just fine from there.

My client side is Vista 32-bit firefox latest version
My server side is gentoo linux with tomcat version 6.0.18-r1
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Postby Arcane » Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:50 pm

I've confirmed i'm using flash 10. The player seems to work fine from that site, but is unresponsive from within subsonic.

Clicking the play button does nothing and yields no errors that i can see. but when clicking a file in the playlist.. i do see a "player is undefined" javascript error.


[EDIT]
Did some browser testing...
Firefox on Windows XP... ok
Internet Explrer on Windows XP.. ok
Opera on Ubuntu.. fail
Firefox on Ubuntu.. fail

it seems to just be the Linux version of the flash player. Flash 10 was used in all tests. Strange though that the player works fine on the longtail video site in all browsers.
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WebPlayer - Missing forwards / backwards buttons

Postby msobecki » Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:58 am

Hi Sindre,

Downloaded and installed 3.6 Beta 1. Great improvements .. keep up the good work !!

Noticed on the new webplayer that you now only have the ability to Stop and Pause tracks in the Playlist. In 3.5 you also had buttons to move backwards / forwards in the Playlist which I found very useful.

Is there a way I can enable these button in the longtailvideo plugin or is this something you would need to include in the next release.
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Postby sindre_mehus » Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:57 am

Arcane wrote:it seems to just be the Linux version of the flash player. Flash 10 was used in all tests. Strange though that the player works fine on the longtail video site in all browsers.


Hm, maybe it's a Javascript error. Can you please check if these examples work in Linux: http://www.longtailvideo.com/support/tu ... I-Examples (in particular "Combining External control and Listener feedback")

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Re: WebPlayer - Missing forwards / backwards buttons

Postby sindre_mehus » Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:02 am

msobecki wrote:Noticed on the new webplayer that you now only have the ability to Stop and Pause tracks in the Playlist. In 3.5 you also had buttons to move backwards / forwards in the Playlist which I found very useful.

Is there a way I can enable these button in the longtailvideo plugin or is this something you would need to include in the next release.


For technical reasons, this is not as straight-forward, unfortunately. The Flash player's internal playlist always contains just the currently playing song (the actual playlist is handled by Javascript). The Flash player automatically hides the forwards/backwards buttons in this case.
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Postby t3rror » Wed Jan 07, 2009 4:01 pm

sindre,

I have tested all of the examples on the longtailvideo tutorial site and they all worked without issue.

My problem is the inability to add tracks to the web player. If I change the settings to use an external player, I am seeing the same problem. Since it seems like the web player is working for me (on longtailvideo's site), I believe that this might be an issue with my install.

Where should I begin looking for log files to determine what the problem is? Is there a debug mode that I can put the application in to see relevant tidbits? Thanks for the great program and the help.
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Postby Arcane » Wed Jan 07, 2009 4:14 pm

sindre_mehus wrote:
Arcane wrote:it seems to just be the Linux version of the flash player. Flash 10 was used in all tests. Strange though that the player works fine on the longtail video site in all browsers.


Hm, maybe it's a Javascript error. Can you please check if these examples work in Linux: http://www.longtailvideo.com/support/tu ... I-Examples (in particular "Combining External control and Listener feedback")

Thanks!
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Looks like it behaves the same way on the examples. The player works.. but the links below the player does not work. I see the same 'Player is undefined' error .
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Postby rasputinschild » Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:31 pm

Is anybody else having huge trouble getting the windows installer from SourceForge?
I'm getting no more than 6kb/s and it often locks up requiring you to restart the download.
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Re: WebPlayer - Missing forwards / backwards buttons

Postby wally.nl » Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:44 pm

Just upgraded my 3.5 stable, so far no large issues except I also miss the next/previous buttons and the album art in the player.

sindre_mehus wrote:For technical reasons, this is not as straight-forward, unfortunately. The Flash player's internal playlist always contains just the currently playing song (the actual playlist is handled by Javascript). The Flash player automatically hides the forwards/backwards buttons in this case.


What a shame, would it be possible to add |< and >| links that control the java playlist (i mean alongside with the 'clear/shuffle/undo/settings' links) for the time being ?

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Postby Bård » Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:06 am

Looks like it behaves the same way on the examples. The player works.. but the links below the player does not work. I see the same 'Player is undefined' error .


I see the same in ubuntu 8.10 firefox and Opera with the latest flash player. player works but not the links. I also see 'player is undefined' javascript error. Is this because of a javascript setting?
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The JW player works very good, except from...

Postby kdid » Thu Jan 08, 2009 6:26 pm

First I must tell you that I am very pleased with the new beta. You now always can position yourself in the current playing song. And in addition you can skip to any song in the playlist simply by clicking on the song. This is just what I had hoped for.

However: When you play WMA files that is encoded with a lower bitrate than the bitrate you are transcoding to, then the player will believe that the song is shorter than what it really is.

So if you play a 96 kbit/sek WMA file with transcoding enabled to use MP3 with 128 kbit/sek then the song is cut short to only play 76% of the file. E.g. A song that is 3:30 long will only get played the first 2:39 of it.

The JW player seems to be told the (in this case incorrect) length of the song at the time playback starts, and before the whole file have been downloaded.

I have not tried this with an external player yet, so I do not know if this is true only for the JW player.

The short time workaround would be to either:
- Ensure that all bitrates on files is greater than the bitrate you are transcoding to.
- Or pick a lower max bitrate for the player.
- Use an external player (VLC) and then maybe skip transcoding.

Question. Is there any support in the JW player to play anything else than MP3 files? Would it be possible to make it play WMA files directly?

Last but not least. Thanks for the great effort to integrate the JW player.
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Re: The JW player works very good, except from...

Postby sindre_mehus » Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:06 pm

kdid wrote:However: When you play WMA files that is encoded with a lower bitrate than the bitrate you are transcoding to, then the player will believe that the song is shorter than what it really is.


Thanks for reporting this, I'll look into it when time allows.

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