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Subsonic can create a ShoutCast stream, right?

Postby rothbart » Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:08 pm

I'm trying to set up my Subsonic so it will generate a Shoutcast stream so my dad can use his Pioneer VSX 1020 receiver to play music remotely. It's my understanding that if he logs into Subsonic and chooses the appropriate player, he can maintain the Shoutcast stream's playlist and tune into it remotely and listen to it. That said... I can never get Subsonic to (seemingly) generate the http://my.domain.com:8000/listen.pls file I'm expecting to exist.

Is there something I need to do other than to specify a specific player as "External Player"? If I open up a web browser on my end and try to browse to that file, it doesn't seem to exist. I have TCP/UDP port 8000 open on my network and a NAT set up for incoming traffic to be routed to the machine that runs Subsonic.

Thoughts? Ideas? I've scrounged the forums and Google and haven't seemed to find even a simple "This is how you set Subsonic up to stream via Shoutcast" even though it's listed as a feature.

Any help would be much appreciated.
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Re: Subsonic can create a ShoutCast stream, right?

Postby BKKKPewsey » Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:10 pm

When you select external player SS generates a play.m3u file which you then open with the player of your choice.
This is saved on the client pc.
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Re: Subsonic can create a ShoutCast stream, right?

Postby rothbart » Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:34 pm

BKKKPewsey wrote:When you select external player SS generates a play.m3u file which you then open with the player of your choice.
This is saved on the client pc.
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Where is it saved? So if a client can play shoutcast streams, you're actually feeding it an .m3u file? I haven't done this much before but that's a bit surprising.
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Re: Subsonic can create a ShoutCast stream, right?

Postby BKKKPewsey » Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:56 pm

Where it is saved I think depends on your browser - with chrome a save dialogue box comes up so you can save where you like. What happens from there with regard to getting the Pioneer player to recognise the stream I cannot help you with.
Unlike normal playlists I dont think you can change the format eg m3u only.
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Re: Subsonic can create a ShoutCast stream, right?

Postby rothbart » Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:55 pm

So while ShoutCast radio channels have a singular http://my.doman:8000/listen.pls link, Subsonic supports Shoutcast by spitting out a .m3u file (of two types, one that you can dynamically edit while it's playing but gives the player no ability to skip) and one that needs a new playlist file everytime you edit the playlist?

Maybe what I'm wanting simply isn't possible. I was hoping my dad could use the ShoutCast support on his receiver to connect to a Shoutcast stream served by Subsonic and then manipulate his own playlist on Subsonic via the web interface. Effectively controlling it via his computer, but listening via his A/V receiver.
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Re: Subsonic can create a ShoutCast stream, right?

Postby rothbart » Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:56 pm

BKKKPewsey wrote:Where it is saved I think depends on your browser


Yeah, I misunderstood you at first. For some reason Subsonic wasn't prompting me to download a playlist. When I clicked Stop on that player, it did. Then whenever I clicked Play (or start?) or Stop it would trigger a download again.
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Re: Subsonic can create a ShoutCast stream, right?

Postby BKKKPewsey » Fri Sep 30, 2011 5:04 pm

I have had a quick look at this ShoutCast thing and all I can say is wow!
I suggest you have a look on the winamp site and forums, after 5 mins reading I still had no idea :?
I am fairly sure it is possible but how :roll:
Hopefully someone else has integrated SS with Shoutcast and can chip in.
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Re: Subsonic can create a ShoutCast stream, right?

Postby osnet » Fri Sep 30, 2011 5:13 pm

the next step would be :

piping the output of a 2nd jukebox to a given shoutcastserver this would be a nice feature to setup playlists for smaller webstreams / online radios : )
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Re: Subsonic can create a ShoutCast stream, right?

Postby monkey » Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:30 am

Use the flash player / Jukebox mode with EdCast http://users.tpg.com.au/rioradio/ picking up the machine's soundcard input streaming into shoutcast would work. You'd need the flash player on a Windows box (although there are alternatives for Mac and Ubuntu Desktop) and you connect your client to the shoutcast stream instead of Subsonic to tune in. Using this method, anything that plays through the soundcard will stream to shoutcast too, so make sure you switch off all Windows sounds if you plan to use it as a desktop PC as well.

Shoutcast 1.9.8 will handle MP3 and AAC+ streams
Shoutcast 2 you have to pay $10 for a licence to stream MP3s (AAC/AAC+ is still free) - I've found this version very buggy as well

IceCast will also achieve exactly the same thing but is a little more difficult to configure

However, if, like me, you have Ubuntu Server (so no desktop) then, you're stuck unless you have a separate machine to achieve the above.
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Re: Subsonic can create a ShoutCast stream, right?

Postby SerpensAlatus » Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:37 pm

I also need to stream directly to a Shoucast stream. Background: I need a jukeboy for Secondlife, on which user can create own playlists an play them via Shoucast, so they can hear it via SIM-Audio.

Mayber thats a feature for future Releases...

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