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Postby Jerard » Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:12 am

Where did I say the sound quality was bad? I said that I could not tell the difference in SS and Audiogalaxy. Both are good. You are obviously bios to the dev, or you may in fact be the dev him in disguise? It was a cheep shot to imply I'm cheep. I am more than willing and able to pay for any product I wish to use, but I expect that product to work correctly.

I'm not going to repeat (pun intended) the same point over and over again. I propose we "agree to disagree" here. To you it's a 'minor glitch', to me it's a question of safety. I refuse to have to look at (and operate) my phone to advance the track while driving.

I'll check in from time to time to see if there has been any progress. In the meantime, good day.
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Postby GJ51 » Sun Dec 05, 2010 1:32 pm

The only bios I have is on my motherboard.

I hope you find a solution that works for you.

EDIT: Anyone following this thread should read the bottom 2 paragraphs at this webpage.

http://monroeworld.com/android/subsonic/
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Postby simpdawg » Sun Dec 05, 2010 10:13 pm

gary,

with all due respect, you've made your point in this thread.

i appreciate your enthusiasm about the program, but you marginalize this issue when you drown out valid complaints with your sarcasm and fanboyism. i'm a supporter just like you are, and if the issue doesn't affect and/or bother you, that's great and you should just let the rest of us vent our frustration and/or solicit a fix in this thread without your interruptions.

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Postby GJ51 » Mon Dec 06, 2010 2:10 am

Yes, by all means ... I agree, only your viewpoint is valid.

I am so foolish sometimes ...

I'm sure that Sindre must still be unaware of this issue ...

Let's redouble our complaints, I'm sure that will motivate him ...
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Postby Jerard » Tue Dec 07, 2010 12:02 pm

GJ51 wrote:Let's redouble our complaints, I'm sure that will motivate him ...



Great idea. It's worth a try. I would also suggest that everyone that has this problem post a complaint every day...or every few days. In addition, reflect the problem in the comment section of the Market, and update that comment every day so that it will always be at the top. I know that the dev is aware of the problem, but I question his motivation level to fix it. If we can effect an impact on new downloads that may cause him to get serious about a fix. I, myself would be happy with an update on his progress now and then, if any.
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Postby alphawave7 » Tue Dec 07, 2010 1:29 pm

Jerard wrote:Great idea. It's worth a try. I would also suggest that everyone that has this problem post a complaint every day...or every few days. In addition, reflect the problem in the comment section of the Market, and update that comment every day so that it will always be at the top.


Or, instead of expending negative energy in a passive-agressive approach, move on to some other software that WORKS FOR YOU? It's worth a try.
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Postby GJ51 » Tue Dec 07, 2010 4:03 pm

Amen.
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Postby Jerard » Wed Dec 08, 2010 5:34 am

You know...if the dev spent as much time working on the bugs of this system instead of (apparently) recruiting fanboys, then this thread would never have existed. You would think that a "help" section of a forum would be the place to go for "help" or for persons that have a common interest, or problem, can go to "help" each other out. Normally, if a certain bug in an app is addressed in a "help" section, then that directs the attention to the developer to the problem so he can figure out what is the cause.

Sometimes one has to utilize "the squeaking wheel gets the grease" concept in order to get something done. It been nearly a month (November 18th) since the dev has posted any comments in this tread regarding this bug. No updates, no workarounds, no "I'm working on it" postings have been made by him since that day.

My last posting, of course, was partly sarcastic and partly a suggestion for others to help make the "wheel" squeak louder for all of us that share this same problem with the app.

As far as "moving on" to another app, I have always liked Audiogalaxy's UI the best and won't use SS until it is fixed (if ever). There may be some point in time I'll give up on it ever getting fixed, but for now I'd like to see it work correctly. There have been over 2600 views to this thread and is the 3rd most popular in the "help" section. Logic would suggest that a person would not read this tread if he/she wasn't having the same problem. It amazes me that this developer has the audacity to ignore so many people and still wants to get paid for a defective product.

I'll be happy to pay when (if) it is ever fixed. For now, I'll have some fun making the wheel squeak louder. I consider it my civic duty to help others to not waste their hard earned money without being fully informed of this problem.

ok, fanboys, your turn.
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Postby GJ51 » Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:24 am

We respect your viewpoint and your right to not donate. However your characterization of a donation to the dev as a "waste of money" because you are dissatisfied with a minor glitch in the Android app is a position that I will not allow to go unchallenged.

To mislead others into thinking that they should not enjoy the full benefits of SS, because it is your opinion that it is a wate of money, is just that, your opinion.

Everyone has 30 days to decide for themselves what the value of SS is to them. When you consider that the minimum suggested donation is about $14 US for what is truly a breakthrough application, I think it is reasonable to conclude that others may not share your assessment. My opinion is that there are always bugs that need to be fixed. Just look at the ritual of MS update Tue. I have full confidence that this will be solved eventually and if I were the dev I would ignore your petty complaints as well.

My son is a developer and is currently collaborating on a few projects with Sindre. He is also currently going through the code to trying find the fix for this problem instead of whinning and complaining about it. We are not employed by or in any way associated with Subsonic as anything other than users who communicate with the developer in a positive manner. Your apparent lack of understanding of the complexity of the program and the difficulty involved in pinpointing the source of this problem is the only logical explanation for your impatience.

Just because they haven't met your needs or expectations doesn't mean that the program doesn't represent a tremendous value for those of us who truly appreciate the hours of high quality commercial free music wherever we go that SS provides. Call us fanboys all you want, I'm sure most readers will recognize that your ad hominem attacks are merely a classic sign of a weak argument.

Let's recap:

I've spent few thousand on two high end servers, I have a Core i7950 desktop, I have a wired gigabit lan and wireless N available throughout the house. I have verizon FIOS 35/35 service that costs about $70 a month, 4 Sprint cell phones on a family unlimited data plan the costs about $170 a month, but in your opinion I'm a fanboy whose wasting his money supporting this application and its development by making a one time donation for less than the cost of a couple movie tickets or a few pay per view rentals, all because when I use the phone to stream the music the first track repeats before moving to the rest of the play list, even though all I have to do is tap the next track button to move along.

Go ahead, do without. It's your choice. Just don't expect everyone to agree with you.
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Postby simpdawg » Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:07 pm

the one thing we should try to avoid here is a flame war...can't see how that will be helpful to anyone. apologies if my previous comment added fuel to that fire...

that said, i have some updates. tried subsonic on my phone while on a wifi connection and was hoping that the increased download speed would alleviate some of the skipping issues....it did not.

i selected the album to play and the first track repeated 3 times. by the 3rd repeat, the next 2-3 songs were already completely downloaded. again at the 6th track it repeated even though the next several tracks were complete.

i don't know if there's any logs i can find/send or other information that is helpful to diagnose the issue, but i am more than happy to answer any questions or provide information on this.
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Postby GJ51 » Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:17 pm

No need to apologize. I think airing all sides is a good thing. I only respond when I think the conversation is losing perspective. In my case, I only get one repeat of the first track and then it moves on. If I tap the next track button as the repeat begins everything works normally.

Your problem seems to be a bit more severe. What phone are you using and what platform and ver of SS are you running. Have you tested to see if the problem is affected if you try other sites that are reported to be working well for others? Has anyone else tested your site with an Android phone? Results? Is your phone stock with latest OTA update or rooted with custon rom? How much room on the SD card?

The more information you provide, the better the chances that we can identify your specific problem.

I would also suggest removing the Android app, rebooting the phone, then reinstall.

I'm also always willing to allow others to test on my site and to test theirs if they wish. Feel free to let me know how I can help you find the problem.
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Postby GJ51 » Fri Dec 10, 2010 7:46 am

Ver 2.0 of the Android Player is now in the Market.

It does not fix the first track repeat issue, but it does fix the behavior of the seek bar. It also adds a new theme, Wheat.
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Postby simpdawg » Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:34 pm

GJ51 wrote:Your problem seems to be a bit more severe. What phone are you using and what platform and ver of SS are you running. Have you tested to see if the problem is affected if you try other sites that are reported to be working well for others? Has anyone else tested your site with an Android phone? Results? Is your phone stock with latest OTA update or rooted with custon rom? How much room on the SD card?


i'm using an HTC Incredible, android 2.2 stock with the system up to date, subsonic v2.0 on the phone, subsonic server 4.1 on my pc. my internal memory is 74% full and my sd card is 46% full with almost 2gb free.

i'm going to try upgrading to 4.2 on the server and double-check my setup against the guide i've seen posted around here and report back, hopefully over the weekend...
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Postby GJ51 » Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:51 pm

I upgraded all of my servers to 4.2 last night and installed 2.0 on my EVO. Everything is running just fine.

You can test your phone on my public server at

http://maplegrove.subsonic.org

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Postby simpdawg » Fri Dec 10, 2010 9:32 pm

GJ51 wrote:I upgraded all of my servers to 4.2 last night and installed 2.0 on my EVO. Everything is running just fine.

You can test your phone on my public server at

http://maplegrove.subsonic.org

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nope, first track repeats when connected to your server...the 2nd time through it went on to the 2nd track, but only after it was completely downloaded.
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