Getting Rid of Flash.

[noeticpenguin]

Ok, I'll admit. I hate flash. I love subsonic, it's quite possibly the application I use more than any other.

That said, can we ... Can we hook up jplayer, or some other html5 stream player?

I'm a programmer, I'm willing to take on working on this mod, but I've no experience with java/jsp. Anyone have interesting suggestions on what players to use?

[aktiveradio]

I just posed the same thing in Feature requests, I'd be very happy to see this, hate flash and there is no real need for it anymore.

Let me know how I can help on this project.

[brett]

Ok, I'll admit. I hate flash. I love subsonic, it's quite possibly the application I use more than any other.

That said, can we ... Can we hook up jplayer, or some other html5 stream player?

I'm a programmer, I'm willing to take on working on this mod, but I've no experience with java/jsp. Anyone have interesting suggestions on what players to use?

As far as I know JWplayer(the one subsonic uses now) has an html5 equivalent, I'm not sure of the complexity involved in switching over to it when it comes to the javascript but I think it supports the same functions.

[aktiveradio]

Any progress on this?

Looks like the non-Flash is all in Beta now. Using JavaScript and jQuery, that's good news.


This document refers to the JW Player for HTML5 Beta, which is a standalone HTML5 video player built using JavaScript and jQuery. A standalone HTML5 player was never officially released; instead HTML5 functionality was incorporated into version 5.3 of the standard JW Player. Certain player functionality that we consider essential were missing in this Beta version. All current and future support for HTML5 will take place under the unified JW Player for Flash and HTML5.

The JW Player for HTML5 Beta was a skinnable and configurable player built around the <video> tag specification found in HTML5. It enabled a seamless fallback to the JW Player for Flash. It included support for JW Player 5 Skinning, and had a JavaScript API.

Click here for a list of supported video formats.




http://www.longtailvideo.com/support/jw ... -for-html5

[mattgoldspink]

I'd just like to add that although flash is bad in it's current state html5 audio is very poor in comparison. This article lists some of the headaches: http://24ways.org/2010/the-state-of-html5-audio

Having played with it on subtunes I gave up on it because every browser had it's own quirks and even when using something like soundManager2 to abstract it away html5 audio nearly always failed on me on chrome or safari (Safari on mac's is especially bad!)

Plus flash is way more feature rich in terms of feedback about the music playing. I'm by no means a flash supporter but I have to admit at the moment it still has he edge over html5 in terms of audio.

[rspeed]

Ah, but I believe it is possible.

Check out this demo video from some engineers at Ericsson.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcwnQW_AnC8

They've demonstrated real-time video streaming using nothing but JavaScript (specifically, WebSocket) and the video element. No plugins. Their demo uses a modified version of Chrome to enable selecting a video device, but (from what I can tell) there's no modifications required to receive and display video or audio.

This is all very exciting to me.

[jo3kr]

http://www.scottandrew.com/pub/html5audioplayer/

http://webmove.org/projects/jamendo-htm ... o-player/#

[lookitscook]

just stumbled on this thread doing research with the end-goal of a web-based client player for Ubuntu One Music (since it uses the Subsonic API).... the equivalent of Amazon's just-launched CloudPlayer.

It seems like hooking up jPlayer (http://www.jplayer.org/) would be the route to go. Is there still any interest in this around here?

[geniosity]

So, is this a dead topic? I would LOVE to be able to stream in HTML5 instead of Flash...

[rspeed]

I'm still interested, but I'm guessing this isn't ever going to happen.

[fractalsystems]

Does JWPlayers new Flash/HTML5 support make this more likely to happen?

[ripken204]

I doubt this will happen since so much work has been put into the current version.
When I get time I might play around with making an HTML5/jQuery version... too many other things to code at the moment.

[snownskate]

Are you guys perhaps looking for something like this: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=7553 ??

[geniosity]

Does it play videos?

[tsquillario]

I am the developer of MiniSub http://forum.subsonic.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=7553

It is an HTML5 audio player based off of AudioJS. Really any JQuery compatible player could be integrated. AudioJS works well for it's purpose, I'd be open to other options tho.

It was designed to be audio only. I could probably be convinced to add video support in the future.