External Access

[-Airwave-]

Hi, I am having trouble accessing subsonic externally via iPhone and other computers. My router is a DLink DIR-615, auto configure found my router and I verified that the ports should be forwarding.

The server is running and i can view the pages and music locally, but i am at a lost at what i am doing wrong. I have read all the tutorials and tried trouble shooting on my own but im not a networking guru, just know basics.

Also, if i end up getting this working, would anyone mind assisting in configuring my Linksys WRT (running tomato) that is connected to my host PC but running as a wireless client? Tried to get this working before but no luck

[-Airwave-]

just installed it on a fresh windows install. no firewall or anything, also reset my router, and still have same issues

[3R3]

I suggest you turn of anything automatic and try to configure it manually, eg. if the server pc is using dhcp the router might not forward to the correct ip so you'd use static ip on the server machine. What tutorials have you used exactly? what have you tried already?

Please post the output of "ipconfig /all" in the "run command > cmd.exe" or the command promt unter applications > accessories somewhere. This would be a good starting point to get to the problem.

I dont have the Dlink router in question, but I hope its just a config problem (win or router) and not a problem with the dlink. On setting up tomato I'd be glad to help, running one right now and it works like a charm.

EDIT/correction: I use the tomato only as a switch and wireless gateway to the lan, so it wont help you much if you want to use it as the LAN/WAN bridge

[GJ51]

Most problems are due to improper setup on the router. Setting a fixed internal ip address for the server and proper port forwarding rules on the router are essential for long term stability.

Disable any DHCP services in any VOIP equipment you have. Only one device per network should handle DHCP assignments.

First read: http://monroeworld.com/android/subsonic/ This is the Windows tutorial but most of the concepts apply to any setup. Specific setup instructions for other Operating Systems are available in the Tutorials section. http://forum.subsonic.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=6 and on the Subsonic website at http://www.subsonic.org/pages/installation.jsp

Never use port 80 or 443 - ISP's often use or block them and these are also the default ports on WHS for the remote login page. 8080,8081, work fine. 808X always works. I've seen others use different port numbers that have caused install failures.

Start with a fresh Java install to the latest version. If you have Java already, uninstall, then do a clean install of the latest version. If you use a 64 bit browser be sure to get both 32 & 64 bit Java.
http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/java_win64bit.xml

In Subsonic Settings/Network - UNCHECK " Automatically configure your router to allow incoming connections to Subsonic (using UPnP or NAT-PMP port forwarding)." make sure to hit the SAVE button, you may have to scroll down to see it depending on your screen size. UPnP or Plug & Pray works sometimes, but not very often and you're better off learning what's going on anyway. You're dipping your toe into the network mgmt. thing anyway, might as well learn what's going on as home networks don't get simpler as time goes on. As your network gets more complex, you're going to have to learn this stuff! No time like the present.

Manually assign a fixed intenal IP and static route to your server at the upper end of the address range of the router, out of the way of DHCP, e.g. 192.168.1.254

Set up your router manually. uPNP might work, but most often it doesn't. Learing how to do it will be a skill you'll love having as your network grows.

Check the Subsonic Control Panel to make sure it's using the right port you're going to use. I typically use 8080, 8081, etc.

Set up port forwarding in your router to direct traffic on the selected port to your server. Consult your router documentation to do this, they are all a bit different.

Learn your external IP address assigned by your ISP. Go to http://www.canyouseeme.org/ enter your SS port number and click the Check box to be sure the Subsonic port is open.

Test your setup by entering your external IP:port# to see if it connects. e.g. http://98.117.185.5:8084/ If it works, you're good to go.

[-Airwave-]

ive been trying to follow this guide. saw it in another thread. but when i am trying to reserve an ip for server machine, it says my MAC is invalid. I tested reservering other machines on my network, their MAC all started with 00 and worked, but the 2 that didnt (iPhone and w7 server machine) would let me reserve. I have been trying to change the MAC on the wireless adapter but dosnt seem to be working. Followed tuts on changing reg key and have a program that says it changed it but it hasnt. I have disabled and enabled it following the guide.

I have a feeling it is my router. DLinks have been garbage. My dad insisted on getting the exact same model that bricked on us last time. idk what else to do haha

Most problems are due to improper setup on the router. Setting a fixed internal ip address for the server and proper port forwarding rules on the router are essential for long term stability.

Disable any DHCP services in any VOIP equipment you have. Only one device per network should handle DHCP assignments.

First read: http://monroeworld.com/android/subsonic/ This is the Windows tutorial but most of the concepts apply to any setup. Specific setup instructions for other Operating Systems are available in the Tutorials section. http://forum.subsonic.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=6 and on the Subsonic website at http://www.subsonic.org/pages/installation.jsp

Never use port 80 or 443 - ISP's often use or block them and these are also the default ports on WHS for the remote login page. 8080,8081, work fine. 808X always works. I've seen others use different port numbers that have caused install failures.

Start with a fresh Java install to the latest version. If you have Java already, uninstall, then do a clean install of the latest version. If you use a 64 bit browser be sure to get both 32 & 64 bit Java.
http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/java_win64bit.xml

In Subsonic Settings/Network - UNCHECK " Automatically configure your router to allow incoming connections to Subsonic (using UPnP or NAT-PMP port forwarding)." make sure to hit the SAVE button, you may have to scroll down to see it depending on your screen size. UPnP or Plug & Pray works sometimes, but not very often and you're better off learning what's going on anyway. You're dipping your toe into the network mgmt. thing anyway, might as well learn what's going on as home networks don't get simpler as time goes on. As your network gets more complex, you're going to have to learn this stuff! No time like the present.

Manually assign a fixed intenal IP and static route to your server at the upper end of the address range of the router, out of the way of DHCP, e.g. 192.168.1.254

Set up your router manually. uPNP might work, but most often it doesn't. Learing how to do it will be a skill you'll love having as your network grows.

Check the Subsonic Control Panel to make sure it's using the right port you're going to use. I typically use 8080, 8081, etc.

Set up port forwarding in your router to direct traffic on the selected port to your server. Consult your router documentation to do this, they are all a bit different.

Learn your external IP address assigned by your ISP. Go to http://www.canyouseeme.org/ enter your SS port number and click the Check box to be sure the Subsonic port is open.

Test your setup by entering your external IP:port# to see if it connects. e.g. http://98.117.185.5:8084/ If it works, you're good to go.

[GJ51]

Your not alone. Several of us tried to help a guy with a D-Link a few weeks ago, to no avail. We tried everything, but he never did get set up. One of the few times we didn't get someone hooked up. I looked at the D-Link manual, and it seems a bit obtuse. I don't have a D-Link so I can't test to see what the problems are, but it's most likely just a quirk in the way you set up the routing tables. I'd suggest giving everything a reboot, including the router to see if it helps.

[-Airwave-]

alright so here is my new setup. here is how my pc connects

pc server > Linksys router running as wireless client > DLink router > Modem


i changed the mac address on the Linksys to start with 00, then added it to reserve on the Dlink. I then setup to port forward 8080 on dlink when received from the Linksys. Then on the linksys, i reserved my server pc. I then port forwarded 8080 from pc to Linksys. In theory i thought this would work, but port checker is still saying error, timed out.

screenshots

[GJ51]

Just briefly looking at this, you should only have one router controlling the network and doing the routing. The linksys should be disabled form any routing functions and only act as an access point for the wireless activity.

Why 2 routers?

Also, no need to open UDP for SS.

[-Airwave-]

Just briefly looking at this, you should only have one router controlling the network and doing the routing. The linksys should be disabled form any routing functions and only act as an access point for the wireless activity.

Why 2 routers?

Also, no need to open UDP for SS.

any tips on how to configure properly? and 2 routers because it was cheaper to get this router and use it as an access point than to purchase an xbox 360 wireless adapter and a good desktop one

[GJ51]

Huh?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... llFullInfo

I just know I'm missing something ...

[-Airwave-]

Huh?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... llFullInfo

I just know I'm missing something ...

yea i have one of those but it randomly drops out gaming. and

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6874103141

and i can have all my pcs hooked up in my room which has no cable

Any tips on how to configure my setup properly?

[alphawave7]

The last user with the DLink ALSO had a double-NAT situation with a Vonage router..that's the one we never resolved, IIRC.

Dump the DLink, and use the Linky for your entire NAT/DHCP job.

[-Airwave-]

The last user with the DLink ALSO had a double-NAT situation with a Vonage router..that's the one we never resolved, IIRC.

Dump the DLink, and use the Linky for your entire NAT/DHCP job.

ugh i would love to, but i cant. yet atleast. my method should work, i just need assistance on configuring the ports and what not with the 2 routers

[GJ51]

You have to decide which roputer will control the network and do the ip assignment and port forwarding. I'm in the same situation as Verizon uses a MoCa router to connect to the FIOS terminal. I have a Netgear router for wireless N but all DHCP functionality is turned off in the Netgear and handled by the Verizon router. You have to read the documentation in both routers to figure out the proper configuration. Trust me, I would give anything not to have to do it this way.

[alphawave7]

Then use the DLink as router and bridge the Linky to the lan. IIRC, broadbandreports forums has a Linksys bridging tutorial, so google that. Report back when you can!