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Postby disgustipated » Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:08 am

if youve got two routers, depending on how you have them configured you will probably need to modify your routing tables on the local pc as well. good luck with that.
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Postby -Airwave- » Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:54 pm

alphawave7 wrote:Then use the DLink as router and bridge the Linky to the lan. IIRC, broadbandreports forums has a Linksys bridging tutorial, so google that. Report back when you can!


alright, so i did that and have the networks configuered properly i think.

but its still not working lol. another thing i just noticed is that canyouseeme is reporting any port i enter is blocked. this leads me to believe i have my dlink incorrectly configured but i dont see what i am missing
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Postby disgustipated » Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:44 pm

youre working on different subnets, youre not going to be able to see the other boxes connected to the linksys from the public network

try plugging an ethernet from the dlink into one of the switch ports of the linksys rather than the wan. it might act as just a switch and the linksys wont try to assign different ip addresses

glancing at your other posts it seems like youre trying to use the linksys as a repeater gateway so you dont have to run wires. if thats the case look in to using dd-wrt firmware and using repeater bridge mode under wireless settings. i dont think the stock firmware offers this sort of functionality. I have a wireless router in my home downstairs connected to the modem and another wireless router upstairs that feeds an ubuntu box and a printer and i am able to forward ports to those boxes.
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Postby -Airwave- » Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:08 am

disgustipated wrote:youre working on different subnets, youre not going to be able to see the other boxes connected to the linksys from the public network

try plugging an ethernet from the dlink into one of the switch ports of the linksys rather than the wan. it might act as just a switch and the linksys wont try to assign different ip addresses

glancing at your other posts it seems like youre trying to use the linksys as a repeater gateway so you dont have to run wires. if thats the case look in to using dd-wrt firmware and using repeater bridge mode under wireless settings. i dont think the stock firmware offers this sort of functionality. I have a wireless router in my home downstairs connected to the modem and another wireless router upstairs that feeds an ubuntu box and a printer and i am able to forward ports to those boxes.


yea i switched to ddwrt. have it all configured under the same subnet. i got my air mouse server working with my iphone, but still cant get this working.
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Postby disgustipated » Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:27 am

The trick is using repeater bridge mode in the linksys to connect to the other ssid of the router connected to the modem. I'm out of ideas if that doesn'twork since I have that same setup
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Postby -Airwave- » Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:19 am

disgustipated wrote:The trick is using repeater bridge mode in the linksys to connect to the other ssid of the router connected to the modem. I'm out of ideas if that doesn'twork since I have that same setup


i believe i have the 2 routers setup correctly. but port checkers are saying the ports are closed or not reachable, for any port. But i clearly have it setup correctly. i have done a factory reset on both routers. I am still thinking this pos dlink is what is causing issues. i am going to swap it with my linksys and connect via wireless card to rule it out tmrw.

but what are some other possablilties for all ports being returned as blocked?
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Postby -Airwave- » Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:08 am

so i spent all day trying to flash my dlink. finally got ddwrt on it. yet im still having port fowarding problems (i suspect?)

when i start wamp webserver, canyouseeme.org reports that 80 is open, and i can access it via home network, but not externally. canyouseeme reports 80 as blocked when i stop the server, even though it should still be forwarding because i opened up 80

this leads me to believe that there could be something wrong with the subsonic server?

EDIT: im making progress lol. i can now connect to subsonic locally via static ip for the server (192.168.1.137) any help on external access would be great. ill try to upload some screen shots of router settings
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Postby GJ51 » Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:33 pm

Sound like you're almost there!

First read: http://monroeworld.com/android/subsonic/ This is the Windows tutorial but most of the concepts apply to any setup. Specific setup instructions for other Operating Systems are available in the Tutorials section. http://forum.subsonic.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=6 and on the Subsonic website at http://www.subsonic.org/pages/installation.jsp

Never use port 80 or 443 - ISP's often use or block them and these are also the default ports on WHS for the remote login page. 8080,8081, work fine. 808X always works. I've seen others use different port numbers that have caused install failures.

Start with a fresh Java install to the latest version. If you have Java already, uninstall, then do a clean install of the latest version. If you use a 64 bit browser be sure to get both 32 & 64 bit Java.
http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/java_win64bit.xml

In Subsonic Settings/Network - UNCHECK " Automatically configure your router to allow incoming connections to Subsonic (using UPnP or NAT-PMP port forwarding)." make sure to hit the SAVE button, you may have to scroll down to see it depending on your screen size. UPnP or Plug & Pray works sometimes, but not very often and you're better off learning what's going on anyway. You're dipping your toe into the network mgmt. thing anyway, might as well learn what's going on as home networks don't get simpler as time goes on. As your network gets more complex, you're going to have to learn this stuff! No time like the present.

Manually assign a fixed intenal IP and static route to your server at the upper end of the address range of the router, out of the way of DHCP, e.g. 192.168.1.254

Set up your router manually. uPNP might work, but most often it doesn't. Learing how to do it will be a skill you'll love having as your network grows.

Check the Subsonic Control Panel to make sure it's using the right port you're going to use. I typically use 8080, 8081, etc.

Set up port forwarding in your router to direct traffic on the selected port to your server. Consult your router documentation to do this, they are all a bit different.

Learn your external IP address assigned by your ISP. Go to http://www.canyouseeme.org/ enter your SS port number and click the Check box to be sure the Subsonic port is open.

Test your setup by entering your external IP:port# to see if it connects. e.g. http://98.117.185.5:8084/ If it works, you're good to go.
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Postby alphawave7 » Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:35 pm

IT'S WORKING! Congrats Airwave..you'll LOVE DD-WRT, btw! :)
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Postby -Airwave- » Sun Mar 13, 2011 3:13 am

ive gone through this again yet still having problems. i think i have fixed the port forwarding problems. canyouseeme is reporting that 8081 is open.

But, when i try to connect using external IP, it times out. Is this a router error or and ISP error?

GJ51 wrote:Sound like you're almost there!

First read: http://monroeworld.com/android/subsonic/ This is the Windows tutorial but most of the concepts apply to any setup. Specific setup instructions for other Operating Systems are available in the Tutorials section. http://forum.subsonic.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=6 and on the Subsonic website at http://www.subsonic.org/pages/installation.jsp

Never use port 80 or 443 - ISP's often use or block them and these are also the default ports on WHS for the remote login page. 8080,8081, work fine. 808X always works. I've seen others use different port numbers that have caused install failures.

Start with a fresh Java install to the latest version. If you have Java already, uninstall, then do a clean install of the latest version. If you use a 64 bit browser be sure to get both 32 & 64 bit Java.
http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/java_win64bit.xml

In Subsonic Settings/Network - UNCHECK " Automatically configure your router to allow incoming connections to Subsonic (using UPnP or NAT-PMP port forwarding)." make sure to hit the SAVE button, you may have to scroll down to see it depending on your screen size. UPnP or Plug & Pray works sometimes, but not very often and you're better off learning what's going on anyway. You're dipping your toe into the network mgmt. thing anyway, might as well learn what's going on as home networks don't get simpler as time goes on. As your network gets more complex, you're going to have to learn this stuff! No time like the present.

Manually assign a fixed intenal IP and static route to your server at the upper end of the address range of the router, out of the way of DHCP, e.g. 192.168.1.254

Set up your router manually. uPNP might work, but most often it doesn't. Learing how to do it will be a skill you'll love having as your network grows.

Check the Subsonic Control Panel to make sure it's using the right port you're going to use. I typically use 8080, 8081, etc.

Set up port forwarding in your router to direct traffic on the selected port to your server. Consult your router documentation to do this, they are all a bit different.

Learn your external IP address assigned by your ISP. Go to http://www.canyouseeme.org/ enter your SS port number and click the Check box to be sure the Subsonic port is open.

Test your setup by entering your external IP:port# to see if it connects. e.g. http://98.117.185.5:8084/ If it works, you're good to go.
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Postby GJ51 » Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:42 am

Can you access SS locally?
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Postby -Airwave- » Sun Mar 13, 2011 6:34 pm

GJ51 wrote:Can you access SS locally?


yes via static ip of the machine and port
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Postby alphawave7 » Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:10 pm

Air..I'm accessing your SS on port 80.
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Postby -Airwave- » Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:23 pm

alphawave7 wrote:Air..I'm accessing your SS on port 80.


not sure how thts possible seeing as i dont have it on port 80? lol
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Postby alphawave7 » Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:24 pm

-Airwave- wrote:
alphawave7 wrote:Air..I'm accessing your SS on port 80.


not sure how thts possible seeing as i dont have it on port 80? lol


LOL! See your pm...
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