4.7 beta

[mesc]

Mh 4.7b1 only shows ID3 Album names in , no Artist anymore? Why? Can I change this?

I don't understand the question. Can you post a screen shot? I have always organized my library by \Music\Artist\Album\Track and made the folder names agree with the tags.

That may be why I don't see some of the other problems others are reporting.

Hej GJ51,

the listing looks like Alsaya posted. Also I can't send a screenshot coz i reverted back to 4.6 coz 4.7b1 freezes my whole pc (look other post).
But the thing with the listing is that I dont only have artist dirs. For example I sorted some dirs like Labels dirs. For example I have "Warp_Records" where I put several various Albums which got released under Warp Label. And with the new Subsonic 4.7b1 I have only listed Album name which really confuses... I hope Sindre will change this feature again.

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I have always organized my library by \Music\Artist\Album\Track and made the folder names agree with the tags.

That may be why I don't see some of the other problems others are reporting.

I have sorted them \Music\Albumartist\Album.
I too can see no difference to 4.6.

I made this sorting because since I use Subsonic I realized that Subsonic needs this sorting to show music with artists in the left frame and Album and tracks in the main frame. Anything is showing up the same with 4.7:
Albumartists: left frame
Albums: main frame
Tracks: main frame
Artists: Main frame together with tracks if there are different artists in an album

[GJ51]

Sounds more like you may have a hardware or OS issue. I have (2) 4.7b1 instances on Windows that scan fine every night. I'd run chkdsk first then do a manual rescan to see if you can get any clues. Some hard drives start to break down as they age and the heat generated by intense prolomged disk activity is enough to put them over the edge. I'd also look at what kind of disk temperatures are being generated during the scan. HD tune pro or any similar disk monitoring software may be helpful for looking at the health of the hard drive(s).

[phazzard]

Will we no longer be able to have the list of artists on the left side genrated by folder names? The album lists within the Artists generated by folders? If we do not have clean ID tags, will we no longer be able to use Subsonic?

Thanks

[pemholder]

Will we no longer be able to have the list of artists on the left side genrated by folder names? The album lists within the Artists generated by folders? If we do not have clean ID tags, will we no longer be able to use Subsonic?

I cannot see any difference.
Even Tracks without tags are shown properly, when the folder-structure is o.k.
Even If there are no title-tags at all, subsonic takes the filenames of the tracks.

Perhaps it is a little confusing fo some with music with and without tags:
If there is a title tag only the title is shown.
If there is no title tag the filename is shown. And most people at least name their files "artist - title".
So with tracks with and without title tag in an album-folder it looks very mixed, some tracks with artist, some without artist.

You can't blame subsonic or your own mess.

[tycoonbob]

What I have noticed that changed for me, is the way albums are displayed. My folder structure is like Most:
Music/Artist/Album/Songs

However, my albums are listed like this:
[YEAR] ALBUM_TITLE [FORMAT]

By format, it's typically FLAC or MP3. So with 4.6 it would list all my albums with my year and format tags in the folder name, which was nice...so I can see that easily. However, in 4.7b1...that is no longer the case. I am guessing it's pulling from the files tags instead of the folder name, which I do not like. Anyway to have an option to change this back??

[Alsaya]

I've the same problem, the best would be a option to select the ID3 tags you like and so you can rebuild the structure again

[pemholder]

By format, it's typically FLAC or MP3. So with 4.6 it would list all my albums with my year and format tags in the folder name, which was nice...so I can see that easily. However, in 4.7b1...that is no longer the case. I am guessing it's pulling from the files tags instead of the folder name, which I do not like. Anyway to have an option to change this back??

Taking information from tags and allow the user to define the tags would be the best.
But I don't understand what you are writing, because 4.7.1 does excatly what you want in my environment.
Even if I clear all the tags for a test, subsonic 4.7.1 still shows my folders.

My folder structure is like Most:
Music/Artist/Album/Songs

And did you define /music als the Music-Folder?

[supra92]

Just to confirm -- I encountered the same dealbreaker issue as tycoonbob. Same dir structure as everyone: /music/artist/album/songs

But the only way I ever want to see albums of a particular artist is chronologically. That's why my directory structure in linux looks like this, using Jethro Tull as the example:

Music/
------- Jethro Tull/
-----------------1968 - This Was/
-----------------1969 - Stand Up/
-----------------1970 - Benefit/
-----------------1971 - Aqualung/
etc. etc.

And indeed, in Subsonic, when I clicked on Jethro Tull in the artists frame on the left, I'd see all JT's albums chronologically, using the directory names. "1968 - This Was" shown first, "1969 - Stand Up" shown next, etc.

In 4.7b1, Subsonic seems to be throwing away the directory structure and using only the ID3 tags. So when i click on Jethro Tull, what I now see is: A, Aqualung, Benefit, Broadsword & The Beast, Crest Of A Knave, etc. Alphabetical, not chronological. Thus far I've not found any way at all to change how 4.7b1 displays the albums. Keeping fingers crossed that this is purely temporary due to "pre-beta-release" work on Sindre's part.... or that the 4.7 release will allow one to choose. It may sound inflexible, but the sad truth is that if 4.7 and future versions are no longer capable of displaying albums chronologically when one uses YYYY-AlbumName for the directory names, I'll have to stay permanently with 4.6. Sindre has always come through however, so I don't anticipate this being a longterm issue.

[GJ51]

Thanks for he reply post, I understand what your doing a little better. Unless Sindre allows the option as you describe then it would force you to edit all your ID tags to match the foldernames in order to achieve what your trying to do. That would be a tall order for a large library unless there's a utility out there that can automate the process.

It might also be possible for Sindre to display the list by using the Year tag if they are correct to get the same result. It would be nice to see some option flexibility that lets each user define how each section of the display is sorted.

[MadEvil]

Hi,

for all 4.7 test user which have a well sorted folderstructure discused above.
try this Mod for other display view folderstructure vs IDTags

Link --> viewtopic.php?f=8&t=9187

best Regards

[BKKKPewsey]

I am being good and not opening my presents early (in truth too many mods to incorporate until SS is final )
But I do hope that 4.7 will use the year tag to primary sort rather then a just an alphabetical sort.

That would be a tall order for a large library unless there's a utility out there that can automate the process.

I use MediaMonkey to sort and tag and if you just needed the year tags to be updated you could use something like

Code: Select all

<Year> - <Skip>\<Skip>

in "auto-tag from filename" which will only update the year tag from the folder name (assuming folders are year - album/tracks)

[pemholder]

In 4.7b1, Subsonic seems to be throwing away the directory structure and using only the ID3 tags. So when i click on Jethro Tull, what I now see is: A, Aqualung, Benefit, Broadsword & The Beast, Crest Of A Knave, etc. Alphabetical, not chronological.

Exactly like I want to see it.

4.7.1 takes the album-name from the album-tag of the first song in the folder. If there is no album tag in the first song it takes the album name from the folder.

[pemholder]

Unless Sindre allows the option as you describe then it would force you to edit all your ID tags to match the foldernames in order to achieve what your trying to do. That would be a tall order for a large library unless there's a utility out there that can automate the process.

If someone really wants to mess the album tag (e.g with year - album) from a folder-source this would be an easy way to do automatic with flexible tag-tools like http://www.mp3tag.de/en/. (MP3TAG)

[GJ51]

So, I would guess that it would be a pretty easy thing to put an option box on the Settings/Media Folders page that would allow you to switch between sorting by folders or tags at the next scan which "should" make everybody happy.

I know Sindre reads the forum posts, so if there's a bit of consensus here that this would work, we might see it show up on the todo list.