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4.7 Beta issues

Postby mchyde » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:43 pm

I can't get Subsonic to show album art on my Win7 Ultimate 64 machine using Internet Explorer 9 in compatibility mode. I'm running Win7 ultimate 32bit on my laptop, and it displays the album art just fine, though much more slowly than version 4.6.

The playlist change is frustrating, to say the least. I like the ability to name my playlists what I want, so I can easily find a them either by date, style of music, or whatever else may have been on my mind when I created them. I also like to be able to pull them up on whatever machine I'm on, including my desktop, laptop and phone. Having to import them to three (or more) different devices is frustrating.

Indexing takes a while too!
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Re: 4.7 Beta issues

Postby GJ51 » Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:37 pm

Are you using beta 2? many of the issues you're describing have already been addressed.
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Re: 4.7 Beta issues

Postby mchyde » Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:22 am

Yes, beta 2.
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Re: 4.7 Beta issues

Postby GJ51 » Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:46 am

So, click on any playlist. Once it appears int the main screen,

Play | Download | Edit | Delete | Export

appear just below the title.

Select Edit to change the list to anything you like.

Album art shows up fine on my sites in IE, but I still think Chrome is a far better choice with SS.

The first index run takes a bit, but once it's done the program responds a quatum leap faster than previous versions and rescans don't take as long. My 50k+ library takes less than 10 mins, to refresh.
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Re: 4.7 Beta issues

Postby mchyde » Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:07 am

I prefer firefox to chrome but my family prefers ie. i use firefox on my laptop, which is probably why I'm not having issues there.
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Re: 4.7 Beta issues

Postby GJ51 » Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:09 am

I use IE9 a lot of the time for casual browsing and logging into sites that require passwords. I've been using IE with Roboform for so long, it's hard to give up entirely.

But when it comes to Subsonic, Chrome just looks and works much better than anything else. It's clean and looks great and is really easy to set all my SS sites in the bookmark tabs at the top. I put the username and password in the link for autologon to the various SS sites so I can just click on a shortcut tab to go to a different site. This really comes in handy when I'm testing different setups and I'm changing things or copying settings between sites.

https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=A ... 0A32A0!184
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Re: 4.7 Beta issues

Postby j3tblk » Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:08 pm

Here's my feedback:
If I rate more than 25 or so albums it will take about 5 minutes for them to display giving the appearance that the server has crashed but in reality it is just amazingly slow to pull the information.

4.6 can't transcode FLAC properly (cuts off the ends of the songs) think I'm going back to 4.5 This is on Win 7 (because this is also my Win Media Center server)

I'm at about 2 TB of audio on an AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition (16GB RAM) RAID 5 behind a TMG server to fix the certificate errors.

EDIT: I also have a svchost.exe losing it's mind and taking about 256,000k of memory and that is new w/ 4.7

If I try to open subsonic.data with notepad it can't and it just lags, I gave up after 10 minutes. If I had to guess there is something wrong with this file. I deleted it, rebuilt from scratch, let the indexing run (way slower in 4.7 world) and I ended up with the same thing.
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Re: 4.7 Beta issues

Postby diffy » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:59 pm

>4.6 can't transcode FLAC properly (cuts off the ends of the songs) think I'm going back to 4.5 This is on Win 7 (because this is also my Win Media Center server)
Negative, this is incorrect. I have been running 4.6 for a long time on Windows 2008 R2 and Windows 7, and FLAC encoding does indeed work perfectly.
Also, it works fine on Linux. These are standalone installations.
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Re: 4.7 Beta issues

Postby bushman4 » Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:15 pm

Agree with diffy. I have no issues with FLAC and 4.6 at all.

Still haven't had a time where I am awake and there aren't five or six people streaming to try the upgrade yet myself... When Phish is on tour my server gets REAL busy!

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Re: 4.7 Beta issues

Postby GJ51 » Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:38 pm

Well ... I agree ... and I disagree.

Not all flacs are created equal. Not all ffmpeg versions are created equal either. I don't have a large flac library, but I do have some. I have demonstrated this several times. For the most part flac works out of the box with the standard install/setup. but I do have a few flc files that don't want to play nice with the standard install. The files that don't play, will play in VLC just fine. They also play fine if I replace the release ffmpeg that comes with the SS install with the ffmpeg version that was included in the SS ver. 4.4 package.

The 4.4 ffmpeg version also does flac and any other format > ogg while other versions won't.

And then there's video. The standard release ffmpeg doesn't do avi or wmv files, but I do have a version that does. Once I get all the right ffmpeg versions with all the right transcoding definitions - everything does work as it should, but it's a lot of manipulation involved to get everyhting working as it should.

We really need an ffmpeg build packaged with Subsonic that can handle all the transcoding whan it's installed.

Additionally, although I have this all worked out for my 64 bit sites, I still have one 32 bit site that can't play all the video formats because my "Videoffmpeg" is a 64 bit version.

My sites are all standard Windows installations, so I understand that other versions of Subsonic may yield different results.
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Re: 4.7 Beta issues

Postby bushman4 » Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:48 pm

We have always had different results...

I always do the same thing, and have never had any issues... Install Subsonic, and install the latest statically linked FFMPEG from http://ffmpeg.zeranoe.com/builds/ and go.

That being said, I have had a few times where something wouldn't play, so I just re-encode it (almost always to FLAC level 6, if it is FLAC) and it plays fine.

But I don't use ogg at all. I should give it a try sometime.

The only other thing that I have had to do over time is to scan the Subsonic log file for any errors, which are almost always tag or cover art related errors, and handle them on a case by case basis. But now that I have handled the errors that have appears, that is only a one-a-month task in case any badly tagged items sneak in.

As is always the case, YMMV,

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Re: 4.7 Beta issues

Postby GJ51 » Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:58 pm

Thanks Glenn,

I tried the stand alone version once but wasn't able to get it sorted out. I never could get it to read network shares on my RAID array or I probably would have gone that route. Have you ever tested that aspect or are all you filles on the local machine?

Reencoding the flac files does work and I'm sure the ones that I have that don't work were ripped differently from what I do as they were sent to me from users that were having the problem.

Have you tried avi or wmv video?
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Re: 4.7 Beta issues

Postby bushman4 » Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:05 pm

My media folders are all set up as UNC paths, but the "shares" are actually on the same local (WHS 2003) machine. Microsoft warns heavily about accessing WHS data "directly" off the data drive, as it screws with the duplication and data distribution process.

No no, they are essentially all "local."

Don't have much WMV to speak of, but stream AVI (and with less success, mkv, due to horsepower on my server) regularly. And native flv web stream rips obviously work very well also. I will do a little looking to see what WMV I have.

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Re: 4.7 Beta issues

Postby GJ51 » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:04 am

OK - I finally bit the bullet and got the WAR version up and running on a Win 2008 Web edition server on a VM. Installed the latest ffmpeg build from Zeranoe and got everything working. All the video files play, unlike what I had to do with the standard Windows install.

Ogg transcoding does not work out of the box. I had to put the ffmpeg from ver 4.4 into the transcode directory and rename it "Audioffmpeg" to get it working with the following string:

Audioffmpeg -v 0 -i %s -f ogg -vn -acodec libvorbis -ar 44100 -aq 6 -ac 2 -map_meta_data 0:0 -

As per usual, once it is setup you still have to remember to UNCHECK "Enable this transcoding for all existing and new players." before you hit Save. Then you have to manually edit the individual Android Players that you want to use ogg transcoding.

You can adjust the ogg quality setting by changing the number after -aq to get good quality at very low bandwidths for when you get lousy 3g when your're on the road. -aq 3 will still sound good at about 100kbps.

Now I'm down to only 2 versions of ffmpeg instead of 3!

Lookin good.
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Re: 4.7 Beta issues

Postby j3tblk » Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:37 pm

I'm still fighting the "Top Rated" lag. Is anyone else having this problem?

I've just unrated all my albums. I may edit the Java script and pull this link as it creates the perception the server is crashed.
If someone clicks the top rated album the server goes unresponsive for minutes, eventually it pulls up one page of results.

I'm not going to dig up the FLAC on 4.6 threads. Sindre has confirmed it and his posts on the matter helped me understand the problem and fix it.
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