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SubSonic and RaspBerryPI

Postby Knochi » Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:55 am

Does anyone know if the RaspBerryPI will be sufficient to handle SubSonic?

RaspBerryPI is a ultra-low cost (25$/35$) credit card size computer for teaching programming to children.
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Specs:
  • 700MHz Broadcom BCM2835 media processor featuring an ARM11 (ARM1176JZF-S) core, Broadcom GPU core, DSP core and support for Package-on-Package (PoP) RAM
  • 128MiB (Model A) or 256MiB of SDRAM (Model B), stacked on top of the CPU as a PoP device
  • OpenGL ES 2.0
  • 1080p30 H.264 high-profile decode
  • Composite and HDMI video output
  • One USB 2.0 port provided by the BCM2835
  • SD/MMC/SDIO memory card slot
  • General-purpose I/O (About 16 3v3) and various other interfaces, brought out to 1.27mm pin-strip
  • Optional integrated 2-port USB hub and 10/100 Ethernet controller (Model B)
  • Open software (Iceweasel, KOffice, Python)
  • Capability to support various expansion boards

And, what is most important, targeted at 1W Power consumption!

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Re: SubSonic and RaspBerryPI

Postby hanker » Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:40 pm

Knochi wrote:Does anyone know if the RaspBerryPI will be sufficient to handle SubSonic?


I have Subsonic running on pretty low-end hardware - a Sheevaplug with 1.2 GHz ARM5 and 512 MB RAM. It works fine. I would expect the r-pi would handle it OK, though the limited RAM may be a problem.
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Re: SubSonic and RaspBerryPI

Postby Knochi » Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:09 pm

At least i will give it a try.
It's a nice platform for doing some experiments.
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Re: SubSonic and RaspBerryPI

Postby paulodell » Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:10 pm

Knochi wrote:At least i will give it a try.
It's a nice platform for doing some experiments.

Hi,
This has just been released in the UK, did you manage to try Subsonic?
Thanks

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Re: SubSonic and RaspBerryPI

Postby ace518 » Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:26 pm

I would assume it would, once you got a hard drive hooked up via network share or usb. I'm running subsonic on a debian linux build on the WD mybook live (eventually i will put up a tutorial on that) which has a APM82181 for its heart. thats 800Mhz, 256MB Ram. Not sure how the architectures copare. I know it uses alot more power than this does, but the ARM11 may very well best it. I'd love to see a comparison. At that price, with that low power, i'd consider buying it to run subsonic off of, and just let the NAS be a NAS.

Another thought, if someone had 2 of these, could you use one to run the server, and offload transcoding jobs to another? I don't know if/how you would do that, but its definitely something I'd like to think about. That could be a way of maybe getting video transcoding working on a low power system like this. Any thoughts?

also maybe worth looking at is
http://nwlinux.com/cubox-raspberry-pi-alternative/

also the allwinner a10
http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/art ... omputer_15
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Re: SubSonic and RaspBerryPI

Postby paulodell » Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:38 am

Some more details for the RPi...

Raspberry Pi .org

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Re: SubSonic and RaspBerryPI

Postby WildWalker » Sun Mar 04, 2012 7:40 pm

paulodell wrote:
Knochi wrote:At least i will give it a try.
It's a nice platform for doing some experiments.

Hi,
This has just been released in the UK, did you manage to try Subsonic?
Thanks

Paul



Paul, the demand for these was so high that none have been shipped yet. The earliest most people will get one is next week, for the rest of us it will be around mid April :)

The initial run was only 10,000 units. The announcement was made at 6am on 29th Feb, and at that point RS and Farnell websites were flooded, RS got 600 registrations of interest or orders per second, I got my registration in at about 06:10 which means about 360,000 people registered before me :(

That doesn't include Farnell orders. This was of course just in the UK, factor in worldwide registration and.....

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Re: Re: SubSonic and RaspBerryPI

Postby paulodell » Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:01 pm

Yes I know the demand was super high, I got a pre order in with farnell but don't expect to see the pi for a while. Will be hood fun to play about with when I get it though.
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Re: SubSonic and RaspBerryPI

Postby paulodell » Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:02 pm

hanker wrote:
Knochi wrote:Does anyone know if the RaspBerryPI will be sufficient to handle SubSonic?

I have Subsonic running on pretty low-end hardware - a Sheevaplug with 1.2 GHz ARM5 and 512 MB RAM. It works fine. I would expect the r-pi would handle it OK, though the limited RAM may be a problem.

Does the hardware you mention handle encoding of the music?

Thanks

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Re: SubSonic and RaspBerryPI

Postby mdafbmm » Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:45 am

Sorry to be a little late in posting this (I was hoping to have tested on an actual Raspberry Pi but have not received one yet).

I have tried Subsonic on an emulated Raspberry Pi (using QEMU - so actual hardware emulation) with the appropriate memory limitations and additional performance pressure as a result of emulating the ARM architecture.

The set up ran fine, at least for a single user. I also had uShare streaming movies to my X360 in the same setup.

Sadly I have had to dump my Raspberry Pi VM due to dead HDD but I might make a new one while I wait for the real thing.

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Re: SubSonic and RaspBerryPI

Postby paulodell » Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:51 am

mdafbmm wrote:Sorry to be a little late in posting this (I was hoping to have tested on an actual Raspberry Pi but have not received one yet).

I have tried Subsonic on an emulated Raspberry Pi (using QEMU - so actual hardware emulation) with the appropriate memory limitations and additional performance pressure as a result of emulating the ARM architecture.

The set up ran fine, at least for a single user. I also had uShare streaming movies to my X360 in the same setup.

Sadly I have had to dump my Raspberry Pi VM due to dead HDD but I might make a new one while I wait for the real thing.

- Michael D

Great findings :)
Is the VM in VirtualBox by any chance?

If it is could you host it on dropbox or something for me?

Cheers

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Re: SubSonic and RaspBerryPI

Postby paulodell » Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:19 pm

Dont worry about a VirtualBox image I found one here http://www.element14.com/community/groups/raspberry-pi.

Its in the Downloads section...http://www.element14.com/community/grou ... loadcenter

Listed as "Raspberry Pi Development VM v0.8"

:)

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Re: SubSonic and RaspBerryPI

Postby Knochi » Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:16 am

Hi

anyone tried SubSonic on a real RaspberryPI now?
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Re: SubSonic and RaspBerryPI

Postby Gme » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:19 pm

I have a raspberry pi and I am just going to install Subsonic on it now.

I think allready I may have issues with disk space on this 2GB SD card just now so there may be a delay in me getting this working as I will need to source another card (this is just the base OS. Music is goin on an external hdd)

Will let you know how i get on.

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Re: SubSonic and RaspBerryPI

Postby Gme » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:29 pm

I have borrowed a 4GB card and using the latest image out.

Performance is very slow. Took about 40 seconds to login. Running top java is about 98% of the CPU.

Im sure there can be some performance gains but curious how much.

Will feed back any info.
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