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Removing flash,

Postby sechanbask » Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:10 am

Hello,

I wanted to know if it's plan to remove flash and transcoding ?

flash may be unavaible for linux at the end of the year.

Transcoding doesn't work with a linutop serveur.

How much money do you need to change this 2 points before 2013 ?

Sorry about my poor english
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Re: Removing flash,

Postby diffy » Thu Jul 05, 2012 8:31 am

Your English is fine, don't worry about it ;-)...

I am sure something will happen to flash... it will be interesting to see if you get a reply here...

But what do you mean "transcoding does not work on a linutop serveur"?
edit: I have taken a look at Linutop [link] and it is a Ubuntu Linux derivative.
I am running Subsonic on both a Windows, and a Debian Linux as well as an Ubuntu Linux server; transcoding very much works perfectly on all platforms.
In fact some formats must be transcoded, like FLAC, therefore as far as I can see, it makes no sense to get rid of transcoding.

Just follow the installation descriptions for Ubuntu, provided on the main page [link],
and you should be able to transcode just fine. You must remember to put sudo in front of every command, so that it gets you superuser rights.
It is also worthy of mention that if you are running this from a bootable USB stick, it is plausible that your changes, to Linutop, are not saved on the USB. When you reboot
the device, you might loose all your changes to the Linux installation on the USB-stick. Therefore you will have to install Linutop to a hardrive to allow for persistent changes. This is common for most if not all USB-bootable OS'es, because the filesystem is running from a ramdrive which gets instantly deleted on every power cycle.
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Re: Removing flash,

Postby sechanbask » Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:37 pm

I have the first one Linutop http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linutop. Debian 6 run very well. But it is not enough powerfull to transcode on the fly .ogg to .mp3 to make streaming. Subsonic will be better when open file format can be listen without transcode.

If mp3 can be streaming, ogg can be too, the more efficent open-source software, better is it.
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Re: Removing flash,

Postby sechanbask » Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:56 pm

If any developper can say if flash will be removing ?
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Re: Removing flash,

Postby bushman4 » Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:37 am

There is only one developer, Sindre, and here is his TODO list:

http://subsonic.svn.sourceforge.net/vie ... iew=markup

Line 71 says:
Evaluate HTML5.


That's as close as it gets to mentioning flash...

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Re: Removing flash,

Postby Drashna » Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:18 pm

I can definitely agree with removing flash. HTML5 is a much better option and is better supported IIRC.

However, transcoding will still be required regardless. It's needed for both transcoding the audio (or video) stream into a format that the players can use. Or to downsample the media.

And OGG isn't necessarily better here. Just because it's open source does *not* mean it's better. In fact, in this case it means it's less universally supported. MP3 is supported by every "MP3" player, and OS.

However, if you check out the "Mods" section of the forum, I do remember a mod that transcodes to ogg instead of mp3. But yes, you still have to transcode.
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