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Subsonic requires flash which is not supported

Postby Robandcathy » Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:24 pm

Hi Im running 4.1 currently on my phone and when I try to watch a movie on my phone, subsonic wants to use flash player. Problem is that flash player will no longer be supported on any newer Android phones......So is the another way to watch movies?
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Re: Subsonic requires flash which is not supported

Postby jarsd200 » Wed Oct 03, 2012 12:00 am

had the same problem. Using the Skyfire web browser has flash built in and seems to work for video playback.
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Re: Subsonic requires flash which is not supported

Postby GJ51 » Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:29 am

I have flash installed on my Galaxy SIII and I use Dolphan browser. Video runs fine.
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Re: Subsonic requires flash which is not supported

Postby Robandcathy » Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:57 pm

I tried both of the browsers, but still get message "get flash player" I as well have a sgs3 but Im running 4.1, 4.0xxx still supports flash, anything there after will no longer support it. Was working fine on 4.0xxx since I had flash, but newer phones are blocked on the android market from downloading or installing flash. I could possibly try finding a .apk and give it a try, but a better solution will be needed soon with all newer android phones running 4.1 and above. @ GJ51 you are possiby still running 3.xxxx or may have a system update to 4.0xxx, but once you get 4.1 flash will be removed from your phone. I understand that flash is dead as of now so we need a new way to stream. Seems like subsonic requires flash player. I have no issues from any computer, just from android phone. :? Maybe a mobile app update to address this, hopefully soon :o
Any other ideas would be great
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Edit: found work around but this need to be looked into for people who are lesss tech oriented
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Re: Subsonic requires flash which is not supported

Postby GJ51 » Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:44 pm

I'm not sure what the answer is here. I'm running a rooted SIII Android version 4.0.4 - I installed Flash Player quite a while back when I first got the phone and it has always played video just fine. I'm pretty careful about not fixing something that isn't broken, so maybe this is just an example of why that's a pretty good idea.

I have seen one report that none of the Aubsinic Android apps work with the recently leaked Jelly Bean update, so I think I'll be passing on that as well until I see evidence that Subsonic will run on that platform.

So far the app has always struggled to keep up with each iteration of Android so this situation isn't one that I was surprised by. It seems a little strang to me that we've been hearing HTML5 for several years now but it seems to not be easy to implement. Currently ffmpeg as set up on SS outputs flv which I think isn't used in HTML5. So I'm assuming that the transcoding will have to be rewritten to output an HTML5 compatible format.

Currently JW Player can also handle mp4 video directly and I do have some of my sites to just pass mp4 directly to JW without transcoding to flv. Of course that only works as a solution if you preformat all your video to mp4.

We do know that JW is advertised as being HTML5 ready, so I'm at a loss as to why ffmpeg can't just transcode to a compatible format. Perhaps it can, but I don't know the proper transcode string that would be needed, nor have I seen anyone else address this issue. I have previously tried changing the current setup to output mp4 instead of flv, but to date I haven't had any success, but I haven't really spent a lot of time on the problem.

Hopefully some of these ideas will get the attention of those more knowledgable than I and come up with a reasonable solution. I know that HLS is working on the iPhone, so there should be an answer for getting video to run without flash on the Android side.
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Re: Subsonic requires flash which is not supported

Postby Muffler » Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:57 am

GJ51 wrote:I'm not sure what the answer is here. I'm running a rooted SIII Android version 4.0.4 - I installed Flash Player quite a while back when I first got the phone and it has always played video just fine. I'm pretty careful about not fixing something that isn't broken, so maybe this is just an example of why that's a pretty good idea.

I have seen one report that none of the Aubsinic Android apps work with the recently leaked Jelly Bean update, so I think I'll be passing on that as well until I see evidence that Subsonic will run on that platform.

So far the app has always struggled to keep up with each iteration of Android so this situation isn't one that I was surprised by. It seems a little strang to me that we've been hearing HTML5 for several years now but it seems to not be easy to implement. Currently ffmpeg as set up on SS outputs flv which I think isn't used in HTML5. So I'm assuming that the transcoding will have to be rewritten to output an HTML5 compatible format.

Currently JW Player can also handle mp4 video directly and I do have some of my sites to just pass mp4 directly to JW without transcoding to flv. Of course that only works as a solution if you preformat all your video to mp4.

We do know that JW is advertised as being HTML5 ready, so I'm at a loss as to why ffmpeg can't just transcode to a compatible format. Perhaps it can, but I don't know the proper transcode string that would be needed, nor have I seen anyone else address this issue. I have previously tried changing the current setup to output mp4 instead of flv, but to date I haven't had any success, but I haven't really spent a lot of time on the problem.

Hopefully some of these ideas will get the attention of those more knowledgable than I and come up with a reasonable solution. I know that HLS is working on the iPhone, so there should be an answer for getting video to run without flash on the Android side.


I've got HLS to work for about 20 seconds on my Galaxy S3, in the MX Player (from "Market"/Play), I haven't got it to work on iPad though.

The flash issue is easy to solve if you just get your hands on the old apk. I haven't uninstalled it so I still got it, but it would feel alot cleaner if I could easly use HLS or HTML5.

Even though HLS has been implemented in Subsonic I don't feel like it's supported by etiher Sindre or the community. I have started and commented some threads here with no answers, i have even e-mailed Sindre about this and some other issue, but he dodged the HLS question alltogether. So I guess we just have to wait for someone more pro to make some kind of guide, or for Sindre to make documentation/comment about this.
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Re: Subsonic requires flash which is not supported

Postby Robandcathy » Mon Oct 08, 2012 2:46 pm

For anyone on Jellybean 4.1 and above I did find a flash.apk, flashed it and it still does work even though not supported. Thanks to those who responded.
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Re: Subsonic requires flash which is not supported

Postby Robandcathy » Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:39 am

Hes going to have to address this within a year, wheater he likes it or not, each day passing by with every new phone release, not supporting flash anymore its gonna have to change, but thanks for trying to push the issue, myself I am allways running the newest android version, wheater it being a at&t verison or sprint, every few weeks one of the major carriers release a new phone with the newest O.S. which flash is dead.
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