Port Forwarding Issues

[alphawave7]

port 80

not sure how to know if static or not???

videos/music is on c: and external drive. (why should that matter)?

Most ISP's block servers on port 80 (roadrunner most likely does). Reset the port to 4040. Set host IP as static, either using the router if it offers it, or by using the wlan adapter settings on the host computer. Then pinhole the host's firewall for Subsonic, port 4040, and then do the same on your router, using your router's manual as a guide. You mentioned permissions earlier in the thread, which gave me a heads-up that your collection may span harddrives, but the settings you tweaked are unrelated to access, which are port/firewall/ISP restricted presently.

[GJ51]

READ - the tutorial

It will EXPLICITLY state not to use port 80 or 443 for Subsonic and actually explain why. You should never have entered any forwarding rule for port 80.

[somercamb]

thank you.Actually, Port 80 and Port 443 ("enable HTTPS on port....") were pre-populated when I stared SS, so not sure why they would be there if we are not supposed to be using them

[somercamb]

not sure if this matters, but my IP is supposedly http://209.6.x.x/, but to access my router, it is 192.168.x.x

I have never seen my IP begin with 209 before, always 192. is there possibly a conflict?

[somercamb]

Ok, somehow (I have no idea how) I was able to put in http://209.6.49.60:8080/ as my Dsub server and it works, but my own site name, somercamb.subsonic.org, still is not working. Any ideas?

[GJ51]

Go back to Settings/Network and hit the save button at the bottom.

Report any message returned.

EDIT: Never mind it is working - there must have been a slight delay in processing the name on the Subsonic server. I am able to reach your logon screen from somercamb.subsonic.org - Congratulations, you're up and running!

I'll bet you've learned a few new things during this process.

[alphawave7]

Just to tie things up a bit...your router has a PUBLIC IP address (eg. 209.xxx.xxx.xxx) that is a lot like your company's physical address. But then the 'mail' (data packets) gets sorted at the mail room and put into staff's mail slots...these are PRIVATE IP addys (eg. 192.xxx.xxx.xxx). Thus, your router indeed has two IP address...a WAN (public) address and a lan (or wlan) private address, not routable on the interwebs. This is a crude description of NAT: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk648/t ... 4831.shtml
Cheers!

[somercamb]

oh sweet! I went to bed with SOMERCAMB....org not working. And just to make sure, I am supposed to have a public IP address AND private IP Address?

[GJ51]

That is correct. You have ONE EXTERNAL ip address that your isp assigns to your gateway device. That is your PUBLIC ip address that all internet communications use.

The router then act as the dispatcher or mailman or however you want to think of it, to send the internet traffic to the correct INTERNAL device located INSIDE your home network.

External addresses can be almost anything. Internal network addresses are always in a reserved range, the most commonly used in home networks being 192.168.x.xxx - I use 10.0.x.x - another reserved internal range. there is another one 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 - but I've never seen anyone use that. which internal addressing scheme used is a function of how many internal devices you need to manage and the topography of your network.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_network.

Google is your friend for anything you don't understand - ask it the right question and you'll get the right answer.

Click on this link - http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Reserved+internal+ip+addresses

I tested your Somercamb.subsonic,org address just now and your logon page is responding.

You have yet to verify for anyone assisting you that you've been able to get the correct response from canyouseeme.org when this is not working on your end. That information would be most useful.

Your logon page responded successfully at 9:13am EST 5/30/2013

It was working last night - it works for me this morning - what did you change in between? Keep in mind that some routers do NOT resolve INTERNAL network REQUESTS for EXTERNAL addresses that are actually located INSIDE the home network. That is - some routers do not have loopback capability and can't resolve a request for it's own assigned external ip address. I've personally never owned a router that had that issue, but I've seen it discussed a few times in this forum.

[somercamb]

canyouseeme.org sees 8080. Should I be checking for another port?

The only thing I changed was to delete all port forwarding in my router settings, which is how I began this debacle, so not sure how the beginning and the end are different other than it works now.

You and everyone have been incredibly awesome and patient with me. I've been thinking a lot lately (before the all happened) about taking a networking course, to at least understand the basics, which I do...sort of. Any suggestions on the type of course to take or just basic 101?

Does it make sense that I should be seeing what I see at my IP address: http://209.6.49.60/index.view ?

Thank you so much again!!!

[GJ51]

Yes - you should be all good now! index.view is just the first page loaded on the Subsonic site. It's the default site homepage.

You've probably learned far more by getting this working than you'll ever learn in Networking 101 at some school.

There are many great websites and books available that are always helpful, but it's having a network environment of your own and solving problems that is really the best teacher. Many issues you face come down to unique interfaces on your particular equipment that any overview course won't be very helpful with. Reading the manuals for your gear and your OS are also great resources. It's nothing that you can't learn on your own.

Take little bites - it can get overwhelming if you try to understand all too fast. Experience hands on is the best teacher.

[alphawave7]

Linksys used to have a very good primer on Networking, but now it appears to have been relocated to Cisco:
http://www.cisco.com/cisco/web/solution ... index.html
plain language, and not too dry nor overwhelming.
edit: I located the old site on wayback: http://web.archive.org/web/200501010357 ... s.com/edu/
Tom's Hardware and the fora (especially Networking forum) over at dslreports are also great places to watch and learn how others are resolving their networking issues, which is the next best thing to Gary's ideal: solutions to your own networking needs, by trial and error, mastering the concepts along the way.